The Intel Core i7 has only recently been launched and its aim was to keep Intel at the top in performance, with Intel dominating performance tests over the last 12 months could they keep doing so even when the Intel Core i7 920 goes up against the AMD Phenom II X4 940 in an overclocking test.
This is just what Toms Hardware wanted to find out in one of their latest hardware tests. Looking at Intel’s history we can see that the 45nm Core 2 Duos were a great way for enthusiasts to create safe and aggressive overclocking and then we saw Intel’s Core 2 Quads deliver smoking speeds with apps using multi-threaded execution, even if they cost a lot.
How is AMD expected to compete with Intel’s great track record? This is where the AMD Phenom II X4 940 comes in, but when they go head to head what was the result? Click the read link below to get the full results.
Sunday, January 18, 2009
Intel watercools Nehalem to 4.61GHz
The guy behind Skulltrail and Skulltrail 2 projects François Piednoel, and the rest of its performance analysis group, have showed us Nehalem, Core i7 PC water cooled all the way to 4.61GHz.
They did it on an Intel desktop motherboard powered by Intel's desktop control center, something that lets you overclock from Windows. The voltage was all the way to 1.44V, whereas the chipset needed 1.21V.
Host frequency clock, something that we used to call FSB speed of the machine is 144MHz, which multiplied by the 32 multiplier gives you the 4610MHz number.
The CPU temperature was at 61 degree Celsius while the CPU Voltage regulator was at 31 °C and chipset at 41 °C. The clock is much higher than the one you can score on Phenom II, but Intel’s CPU used here is much more expensive.
Nehelem, Core i7 is definitely better water overclocker than Phenom II but Phenom II still overclocks higher at 6GHz+ domains.
They did it on an Intel desktop motherboard powered by Intel's desktop control center, something that lets you overclock from Windows. The voltage was all the way to 1.44V, whereas the chipset needed 1.21V.
Host frequency clock, something that we used to call FSB speed of the machine is 144MHz, which multiplied by the 32 multiplier gives you the 4610MHz number.
The CPU temperature was at 61 degree Celsius while the CPU Voltage regulator was at 31 °C and chipset at 41 °C. The clock is much higher than the one you can score on Phenom II, but Intel’s CPU used here is much more expensive.
Nehelem, Core i7 is definitely better water overclocker than Phenom II but Phenom II still overclocks higher at 6GHz+ domains.
Intel to bring out chip for lower-cost thin laptops
Intel will bring out a new Core-architecture processor for lower-cost ultra-thin laptops later this year, according to Intel sources at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
The processors will distinguish themselves by targeting a price segment below pricey ultra-portables, which typically start at around $1,500 and range all the way up to $3,000--and higher in some cases. The processors will not compete with the Atom processor that powers Netbooks, which usually top out at $500.
In this sense, the new chips will be comparable to Advanced Micro Devices' recently announced Athlon Neo processor for ultra-thin laptops priced between $700 and $900.
The processor is "going to enable notebooks that are less than one inch (25mm)," according to the sources. The architecture will be a "tweak" of Intel's existing ULV (Ultra-Low-Voltage) processors, said the sources.
Current ULV Core 2 Duo mobile processors, such as the SU9300 and SU9400, have a power envelope (Thermal Design Power or TDP) of 10 watts, much lower than standard Intel mobile Core 2 Duo processors that have a TDP of between 25W and 35W.
ULV processors are used, for example, in ultraportables such as the Toshiba Portege R600 and Sony Vaio TT. Both are ultrathin high-priced boutique ultra-portables, starting at about $2,000.
Intel also offers SL series low-power mobile Core processors with a TDP of 17 watts.
The package size of the new processors will be 22 millimeters by 22 millimeters, according to the sources.
The processors will distinguish themselves by targeting a price segment below pricey ultra-portables, which typically start at around $1,500 and range all the way up to $3,000--and higher in some cases. The processors will not compete with the Atom processor that powers Netbooks, which usually top out at $500.
In this sense, the new chips will be comparable to Advanced Micro Devices' recently announced Athlon Neo processor for ultra-thin laptops priced between $700 and $900.
The processor is "going to enable notebooks that are less than one inch (25mm)," according to the sources. The architecture will be a "tweak" of Intel's existing ULV (Ultra-Low-Voltage) processors, said the sources.
Current ULV Core 2 Duo mobile processors, such as the SU9300 and SU9400, have a power envelope (Thermal Design Power or TDP) of 10 watts, much lower than standard Intel mobile Core 2 Duo processors that have a TDP of between 25W and 35W.
ULV processors are used, for example, in ultraportables such as the Toshiba Portege R600 and Sony Vaio TT. Both are ultrathin high-priced boutique ultra-portables, starting at about $2,000.
Intel also offers SL series low-power mobile Core processors with a TDP of 17 watts.
The package size of the new processors will be 22 millimeters by 22 millimeters, according to the sources.
Intel to Launch New CPUs for Low-Cost Thin Notebooks
California-based leading chip maker is expected to debut a series of new microprocessors that will take advantage of the company's old Core-architecture, according to the latest info coming from the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada. Said processors are expected to be implemented in upcoming lower-cost, thin laptops that will not compete with other Atom-powered devices.
Intel's upcoming Core-based processors are said to be targeting a price segment below that of today's ultra-portable computer systems, which are typically priced at around $1500 to $3000, or higher in some cases. These devices aren't designed to compete with current Intel Atom-based portable systems, most of which have a maximum price tag set at $500. Basically, the new Intel laptop CPUs will be going for a market segment that is placed between netbooks and pricey ultra-thin, fully-fledged notebooks.
It is expected that the new Intel laptops are actually meant to compete with the recently launched Athlon New processors, designed by Intel's archival, Advanced Micro Devices. These processors are built for ultra-thin laptops with prices between $700 and $900. The aforementioned devices are expected to boast a thickness that is less than one inch, according to sources. The CPUs will be designed as a tweaked version of Intel's current ULV (Ultra-Low-Voltage) processors.
Currently, Intel is providing a couple of ULV Core 2 Duo mobile processors, including the SU9300 and the SU9400, which are designed with a power envelope (Thermal Design Power) of 10 watts, considerably lower than that of the company's mobile Core 2 Duo processors, which are basically rated at a TDP of between 25W and 35W.
The specific release date of Intel's new ultra-thin laptops is yet to become available, but when they will be released, these mobile CPUs will be incorporated in portable computer systems such as the Toshiba Portege R600 and Sony's Vaio TT, but with a price tag that is lower than $2000.
Intel's upcoming Core-based processors are said to be targeting a price segment below that of today's ultra-portable computer systems, which are typically priced at around $1500 to $3000, or higher in some cases. These devices aren't designed to compete with current Intel Atom-based portable systems, most of which have a maximum price tag set at $500. Basically, the new Intel laptop CPUs will be going for a market segment that is placed between netbooks and pricey ultra-thin, fully-fledged notebooks.
It is expected that the new Intel laptops are actually meant to compete with the recently launched Athlon New processors, designed by Intel's archival, Advanced Micro Devices. These processors are built for ultra-thin laptops with prices between $700 and $900. The aforementioned devices are expected to boast a thickness that is less than one inch, according to sources. The CPUs will be designed as a tweaked version of Intel's current ULV (Ultra-Low-Voltage) processors.
Currently, Intel is providing a couple of ULV Core 2 Duo mobile processors, including the SU9300 and the SU9400, which are designed with a power envelope (Thermal Design Power) of 10 watts, considerably lower than that of the company's mobile Core 2 Duo processors, which are basically rated at a TDP of between 25W and 35W.
The specific release date of Intel's new ultra-thin laptops is yet to become available, but when they will be released, these mobile CPUs will be incorporated in portable computer systems such as the Toshiba Portege R600 and Sony's Vaio TT, but with a price tag that is lower than $2000.
Intel Atom Processor Appears in New Lenovo Desktop
While the 2009 International CES expo saw any number of PC vendors offering a wide range of laptops and mininotebooks that use the Intel Atom processor, few OEMs talked about their plans for a desktop that uses the Atom chip. Now, Lenovo is looking to offer a low-cost desktop or “nettop” that uses an Intel Atom 230 processor. The Lenovo H200 desktop is geared toward consumers but sells at a low price of $400.
While PC vendors spent most of the 2009 International CES trying to outdo themselves when it comes to offering the latest and greatest “netbook” or mininotebook with an Intel Atom processor, rarely did these same companies talk about plans for low-cost desktops using the same chip.
Now, Lenovo seems to have come up with at least its own answer.
On Jan. 13, Lenovo announced a new consumer desktop called the H200, which uses an Intel Atom 230 processor running at 1.6GHz. This low-cost desktop or “nettop” starts at about $400 and is now available, according to Lenovo. The Lenovo H200 also offers a number of other standard features, including an Intel GMA 950 chip set, a minimum of 1GB of main memory and a 160GB SATA (serial ATA) hard disk drive.
While a desktop using an Intel Atom processor is rare, it is not unexpected and Intel has been encouraging its OEMs partners to try Atom in a number of different form factors, including desktops or nettops. In 2008, Hewlett-Packard reportedly showed its own version of a nettop in Taiwan called the HP Compaq Presario mini-Q 2020.
In addition to Lenovo and HP, Asus, which has had success with netbooks starting with the Eee PC, and MSI also have desktops that use an Intel Atom processor.
While the Intel Atom processor might help lower the costs of desktops even further and offer enough processing power to access the Internet and support basic applications, it is unlikely that many businesses, even small and midsized businesses (SMBs), would have much of an interest.
“The performance of the processor is adequate for things like going online and writing up documents,” John Spooner, an analyst with Technology Business Research, wrote in an e-mail.
“For the most part, it's going to be for systems sold in emerging market, though,” Spooner added. “I don't see Atom-based desktops being a big hit for businesses or consumers in the U.S. or Western Europe, where something like a [Intel] Celeron or an AMD Sempron would probably be accepted more readily.”
In addition to the H200 desktop, Lenovo has also used the Intel Atom in its own line of mininotebooks, including the IdeaPad S10, which was revamped at the 2009 CES. Hewlett-Packard and Dell also announced new mininotebooks at CES that use the Intel Atom.
Lenovo also announced two other consumer desktops on Tuesday: The IdeaCentre K220 and the K230. Each of these machines uses an Intel Core 2 Quad processor.
While PC vendors spent most of the 2009 International CES trying to outdo themselves when it comes to offering the latest and greatest “netbook” or mininotebook with an Intel Atom processor, rarely did these same companies talk about plans for low-cost desktops using the same chip.
Now, Lenovo seems to have come up with at least its own answer.
On Jan. 13, Lenovo announced a new consumer desktop called the H200, which uses an Intel Atom 230 processor running at 1.6GHz. This low-cost desktop or “nettop” starts at about $400 and is now available, according to Lenovo. The Lenovo H200 also offers a number of other standard features, including an Intel GMA 950 chip set, a minimum of 1GB of main memory and a 160GB SATA (serial ATA) hard disk drive.
While a desktop using an Intel Atom processor is rare, it is not unexpected and Intel has been encouraging its OEMs partners to try Atom in a number of different form factors, including desktops or nettops. In 2008, Hewlett-Packard reportedly showed its own version of a nettop in Taiwan called the HP Compaq Presario mini-Q 2020.
In addition to Lenovo and HP, Asus, which has had success with netbooks starting with the Eee PC, and MSI also have desktops that use an Intel Atom processor.
While the Intel Atom processor might help lower the costs of desktops even further and offer enough processing power to access the Internet and support basic applications, it is unlikely that many businesses, even small and midsized businesses (SMBs), would have much of an interest.
“The performance of the processor is adequate for things like going online and writing up documents,” John Spooner, an analyst with Technology Business Research, wrote in an e-mail.
“For the most part, it's going to be for systems sold in emerging market, though,” Spooner added. “I don't see Atom-based desktops being a big hit for businesses or consumers in the U.S. or Western Europe, where something like a [Intel] Celeron or an AMD Sempron would probably be accepted more readily.”
In addition to the H200 desktop, Lenovo has also used the Intel Atom in its own line of mininotebooks, including the IdeaPad S10, which was revamped at the 2009 CES. Hewlett-Packard and Dell also announced new mininotebooks at CES that use the Intel Atom.
Lenovo also announced two other consumer desktops on Tuesday: The IdeaCentre K220 and the K230. Each of these machines uses an Intel Core 2 Quad processor.
Intel preps Core 2 Duo ‘Ultra’?
Cut-down and cut-priced Core 2 Duo set to bring MacBook Air-style notebooks to the Windows mainstream.
Days after AMD’s launch of the Neo processor for ‘thin and light’ ultraportables, rumours say Intel is set to announce a similar budget-priced chip.
The scuttlebutt from the Consumer Electronics Show, where Intel was out in full force to showcase innovations ranging from ‘Widget TV’ to its My WiFi personal mesh networking, is that the chip will be a tweaked version of Intel’s existing ultra-low voltage 45nm Core 2 Duo ‘Penryn’ 3M small package processor.
That chip’s predecessor, a 65nm ‘mini-Merom’ codenamed Santa Ynez, was at the heart of the MacBook Air and Lenovo’s ThinkPad X300. Most of the latest crop of thin and light notebooks are built around the ULV or LV Penryn but have price tags well above those of mid-range notebooks.
Intel’s small package chips have an overall footprint of just 22mm², compared to 35mm² for the conventional mobile processors. The ULV variant of the Penryn, released in September as part of the Centrino 2 wave, currently clocks at 1.2GHz and 1.4GHz with a 10w thermal ceiling.
However, the manufacturer prices average US$275, which represents a third of the total retail price for category of thin-and-light notebooks proposed under AMD’s much cheaper Neo. The first Neo-powered ultraportable, HP’s 2.2cm-thin dv2, sells for between US$700-$900 depending on the configuration.
Like the Neo, Intel’s ultraportable chip would slot between the netbook-favoured Atom and the Core 2 Duo of conventional laptops.
Days after AMD’s launch of the Neo processor for ‘thin and light’ ultraportables, rumours say Intel is set to announce a similar budget-priced chip.
The scuttlebutt from the Consumer Electronics Show, where Intel was out in full force to showcase innovations ranging from ‘Widget TV’ to its My WiFi personal mesh networking, is that the chip will be a tweaked version of Intel’s existing ultra-low voltage 45nm Core 2 Duo ‘Penryn’ 3M small package processor.
That chip’s predecessor, a 65nm ‘mini-Merom’ codenamed Santa Ynez, was at the heart of the MacBook Air and Lenovo’s ThinkPad X300. Most of the latest crop of thin and light notebooks are built around the ULV or LV Penryn but have price tags well above those of mid-range notebooks.
Intel’s small package chips have an overall footprint of just 22mm², compared to 35mm² for the conventional mobile processors. The ULV variant of the Penryn, released in September as part of the Centrino 2 wave, currently clocks at 1.2GHz and 1.4GHz with a 10w thermal ceiling.
However, the manufacturer prices average US$275, which represents a third of the total retail price for category of thin-and-light notebooks proposed under AMD’s much cheaper Neo. The first Neo-powered ultraportable, HP’s 2.2cm-thin dv2, sells for between US$700-$900 depending on the configuration.
Like the Neo, Intel’s ultraportable chip would slot between the netbook-favoured Atom and the Core 2 Duo of conventional laptops.
Intel prepping low-cost ultraportable chip?
Intel is developing a new Core 2-based processor that would bring ultraportable notebooks to non-premium prices, leaks from within the company at CES have revealed to CNET. The contacts say the processor will be faster than the Atom processors for netbooks but less expensive than the Core 2 Duo S or ultra-low voltage Core 2 Duo processors that currently inflate the prices of systems like Apple's MacBook Air and Lenovo's ThinkPad X301, which regularly start at prices of $1,800 or more.
Few technical details are available for the new chips, though they should be modified versions of the ULV Core 2 Duo parts and will have a small total package of just 22mm (0.87in) square that will let it fit into tight spaces. The power consumption of the chip is unknown, though ULV chips have a peak thermal design power use of 10W where the Core 2 Duo S uses 17W.
The Intel representatives leaking the information don't say when the processors would be available other than sometime during 2009; they also didn't say whether the chip is a special commission for a particular computer maker or a standard production model.
The introduction of a new mid-grade class of chip is potentially important to Intel, which encountered a rare defeat at CES when AMD introduced the Athlon Neo. The chip and its platform currently give HP's new dv2 notebook a small screen and thin dimensions at $699 without having to resort to slow netbook-level chips. Intel has also inadvertently hurt its own profit margins with the success of Atom chips in netbooks as the components make less money per sale than any of the company's other processors.
Few technical details are available for the new chips, though they should be modified versions of the ULV Core 2 Duo parts and will have a small total package of just 22mm (0.87in) square that will let it fit into tight spaces. The power consumption of the chip is unknown, though ULV chips have a peak thermal design power use of 10W where the Core 2 Duo S uses 17W.
The Intel representatives leaking the information don't say when the processors would be available other than sometime during 2009; they also didn't say whether the chip is a special commission for a particular computer maker or a standard production model.
The introduction of a new mid-grade class of chip is potentially important to Intel, which encountered a rare defeat at CES when AMD introduced the Athlon Neo. The chip and its platform currently give HP's new dv2 notebook a small screen and thin dimensions at $699 without having to resort to slow netbook-level chips. Intel has also inadvertently hurt its own profit margins with the success of Atom chips in netbooks as the components make less money per sale than any of the company's other processors.
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